Health care deal could save money, but skeptics question how soon

May 20, 2011

By Arielle Levin Becker

The agreement between state employee unions and the Malloy administration counts on a nearly 10 percent savings in employee and retiree health care costs in the first year from changing the way the benefits plan is designed.

The concept behind it--structuring the plan to encourage workers to take care of their health--is already used widely in the private sector and among public employers in other states.

But some observers are skeptical about the prospect of achieving immediate savings on the scale assumed in the agreement. The plan counts on people using more preventive services, which can identify diseases early and potentially save money in the long run, but can themselves increase health care spending up front. And experts say wellness and prevention programs often don't save money for the first few years.

"One of the things that's hard about these programs, especially when you're in a political environment and facing the kind of financial pressures that governments are, it's hard to be patient," said Brooke Bascom, communications director for employee health and well-being in King County, Washington, which started a tiered benefits program in 2006. "You don't see cost savings from programs like this until five years out."

Similarly, several benefits consultants told researchers from the Center for Studying Health System Change that employers implementing wellness programs should be ready to lose money on health care costs in the first year or two, and not see reasonable returns until the fourth or fifth year.

And in its guide to value-based benefit plans--the kind the state employee agreement calls for--the National Business Coalition on Health warns that costs can increase in the short-term because of increased use of medical services. Reduced medical costs from improved health can take longer to materialize, it said.

The agreement assumes the state would save $121.7 million in the first year from changes to the health plan's design. Some is projected to come from more traditional changes like requiring prior authorization for services like MRIs, limiting the number of physical or occupational therapy sessions a person could have, and limiting orthotics to people with certain diseases, like diabetes. Mark Ojakian, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy's chief negotiator on the deal, said those are projected to save about $20 million in the first year. The plan would also require members who go to the emergency room but do not get admitted to the hospital to pay $35; currently, they pay nothing. The savings figure also includes the increased premiums members who don't participate in the new plan design would pay.

But Ojakian said that Milliman, the consulting firm the state used to develop the savings targets, believed much of the savings could be achieved through the value-based plan design.

"They do believe that when people start to enroll in these programs, and start to do some of the things that they're supposed to do, some of the protocols, some of the diagnostic testing, that that will in the first year yield a good amount of savings," he said.

Republican leaders criticized the savings figures from the health plan changes, saying they were part of a series of "phantom savings" in the labor deal.

Senate Minority Leader John P. McKinney, R-Fairfield, said value-based benefits are good policy, and noted that he proposed tax credits to encourage them in 2008. But he and House Minority Leader Lawrence F. Cafero Jr., R-Norwalk, said such plans do not save money in the first two years and would instead cost money by requiring employees to get more care then many already get.

"Maybe as many as half the state employees don't even have a primary care physician. Many people don't go for an annual check-up. Under this proposal, you would be required to do that," McKinney said.

Supporters of the health plan changes have acknowledged that the projected savings are ambitious, but say they represents a structural shift that will bring long-term savings and improve workers' health. They say it's a better strategy than the way employers have traditionally cut health care spending, shifting more of the costs onto workers, which can lead them to put off care.

"It's obviously an ambitious number, but I have to believe that the actuaries would not [project] that savings unless they had strong confidence that we could get there," said state Comptroller Kevin P. Lembo, whose office administers the state employee and retiree health plan. "It will mean that we would have to get out of the gate quickly, that we'd have to educate folks about what this means and then start to put in place the program very rapidly, but we're ready."

Robert Krzys, the union chair of the statewide health care cost containment committee, called the first-year savings projection "fairly realistic." If the first-year target isn't met, he said, it could be made up in the second or third year. But he added that the projections aren't simple to quantify.

"Can anybody that was involved in this guarantee that we're going to do it? Well, they can't guarantee it, and if people want to jump on that, then let them jump on it, but that's been the same in every actuarial projection that's ever happened," he said. "To me it's a red herring, really, because it's a change to a structure that's important."

Prevention or pay

The savings projection is based on the assumption that half of the people in the state employee and retiree plan will participate in a new "value-based" plan, Krzys said. The plan is voluntary; those who don't participate would receive the same benefits, but be charged $100 a month more in premiums and face a $350 deductible.

People in the value-based plan would have to meet certain conditions, including getting physicals and all screenings, like mammograms, colonoscopies and vision exams, recommended for them.

Those with certain conditions--diabetes, asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, high cholesterol and triglycerides, heart failure, or hypertension--would also have to participate in a disease management program run by the insurers that administer the plans. About a third of people in the state employee and retiree pool have one or more of the conditions, Krzys said, and their care represents about two thirds of the plan's costs.

The disease management programs include helplines and nurses who provide information about the conditions.

"You have to deal with them, you have to read the materials, call them back, take phone calls," Krzys said. "You don't have to get better. You don't have to lose weight, because obesity's not a part of this. You don't have to stop smoking, but you're going to be told [it's a] pretty good idea."

Copayments for drugs that treat the conditions would be reduced for patients in the disease management programs, and copays for doctor visits for the conditions would be waived.

Those who meet the value-based plan requirements for a year will get $100, Krzys said.

Other changes apply to all beneficiaries, including care coordination for people leaving the hospital, which is aimed at keeping patients from being readmitted. The plan would also encourage people getting bariatric or cardiac surgery to use "centers of excellence," designated by the insurers based on patient outcomes. Doctors who call for authorization will be told about the centers of excellence, although the doctor and patient could choose any hospital.

Lembo said the idea of the plan design is to remove barriers to receiving care and medication, coordinate care and emphasize prevention. State employees already face fewer barriers than many people in other types of plan, he said.

Still, many employees and retirees don't get screenings or physicals that are recommended, Krzys said.

How does he expect to get them to participate?

"We're going to charge them 100 bucks a month" if they don't, Krzys said. "I think that's a lot."

Part of national conversation

Lembo said the plan design reflects efforts that began before the concession negotiations.

"It really will synch us up with the national conversation around how do we spend our money in the most effective way, how do we really drive positive outcomes and how do we engage patients and their primary care providers... in a meaningful way?" he said.

The state will be "a bit of a laboratory," with a large insurance pool to see what works and what doesn't, and make changes accordingly, he said. But he added that the concept behind the plan design is not new and has improved outcomes and helped control costs in other places.

Ellen Andrews, executive director of the Connecticut Health Policy Project who is part of a Council of State Governments policy group looking at ways to link health care purchasing to quality, said she has gotten many questions about the plan, including about how it could save money. She said she understands that people can be suspicious of the incentives. Workers will need to buy into the plan's concept and feel that they have control over their care for it to work, she said.

"Honestly, I think it's the only way that we're going to save money," she said. "Because just raising premiums and copays on people isn't working."

Andrews said the projected first-year savings were "a little ambitious, but it's not out of the ballpark. Places that have done this have been surprised at how quickly they see savings."

Wellness and prevention programs vary widely, and experts caution that it's difficult to measure their effects on health care costs.

"There are so many factors in play that it's very difficult to measure accurately the actual savings by having a given program," said Richard Cauchi, program director for health for the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Stamford-based Pitney Bowes, which is often cited as a leader in employee wellness programs and benefit designs, says its per-employee health care costs are 15 percent to 20 percent below what similar companies spend. Its efforts began two decades ago. Administration and union officials involved in the agreement have cited Pitney Bowes as a model, but Cafero noted that Pitney Bowes did not save money from its program until the third year.

In Washington state, King County has spent $26 million less than projected since 2005, when it implemented a disease management program. In 2006, it began a three-tier health benefits program, with lower costs--up to $1,200--tied to health-related activities. Workers can lower their out-of-pocket costs by taking a health risk assessment, and can lower them further by doing 10 weeks of activity that targets a risk factor identified in the assessment.

Last year, only 10.7 percent of 19,000 workers and spouses or domestic partners in the plan took no action to lower their costs. Sixty-eight percent were in the lowest-cost tier. Body-mass index, blood pressure and cholesterol levels have fallen, as have smoking and medical claims for bronchitis and pneumonia, Bascom said.

Bascom cautioned that the savings took time to achieve. She credited an agreement between the county government and employee unions for keeping the program going before it started saving money.

"Anytime there was faltering support, the county and labor would come together and argue the case for staying the course and seeing how things would go," she said.

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Looks like the State

Looks like the State Employees will be getting Sustinet to me:

HB 6305 Sustinet Bill (file copy):
Sec. 6. (NEW) (Effective from passage) (a) On and after January 1,
394 2012, the state employee plan, administered in accordance with the
395 provisions of section 5-259 of the general statutes, and the medical
396 assistance programs administered by the Department of Social
397 Services, in accordance with the provisions of chapter 319v of the
398 general statutes, including, the Medicaid program, HUSKY Plan, Part
399 A and Part B, HUSKY Plus programs, the Charter Oak Health Plan,
400 and the basic

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Why would the union, or

Why would the union, or anyone else for that matter, knowingly vote for this? Negotiate in 2017.

Hapkido, If this goes down in

Hapkido,

If this goes down in 2017 you will not negotiate. State Employee Unions will simply wind up in Arbitration with the State and LOSE Retiree health care as of July 1, 2017. Bright move that would be pal.

http://www.easypolls.net/poll

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4dd43f36f7828ee0151f2d3f

lets see where we stand… keep voting. show them we mean business. Do not toy with our future. Protect our health plan, protect our current contract.

VOTE NO!!!!

In my view it is not possible

In my view it is not possible to vote in favor of the concession package until we know exactly what the two proposed health plans cover, the cost to the employee and the details of the wellness program. Among the rank and file there is a lot of distrust of Mr. Malloy and his administration. Negotiations were conducted in secret. As a result the frustration of the employees was, and is palpable. Mr. Malloy began sending layoff notices knowing full well that a proposal was in the offing. We are being asked to approve something without being given the facts,

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Mansfield 1 - Your post makes

Mansfield 1 - Your post makes you sound angry and scared. I feel for you. These are diffcult times. But they will pass.

Impressive though that you can predict the future. Show me one arbitrator that removed all healthcare from employees.

Why would someone negotiate a long term benefit package in the midst of the worst economic downturn in decades for a plan that is undefined and untested? It isn't rational.

Don't make decisions in fear. You will never get good results.

Agreed 4gs! ...with one small

Agreed 4gs!
...with one small exception....
it is a slightly mutated form of SustiNet as it does not YET include a public option.
So the concept is that the plan formerly known as SustiNet would be initially funded entirely on the backs of State Employees! If they were to discover the funds are short,they
would invite nonprofits and municipalities into the program ASAP.

Yep...I'm voting NO! We'll have to see what the options look like when ObamaCare kicks in in 2014...and fully in 2017.

To Mansfield1...the acquistion of health care insurance may look very different in 2017...one's

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ONLY VOTE YES IF YOU

ONLY VOTE YES IF YOU WANT
Submitted by sharewhut on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 9:26pm.

ONLY VOTE YES IF YOU WANT SUSTINET FORCED ON YOU!!!!!!!!
They're not even trying to disguise it. Memo on today (5/20) that there will be NO OPEN ENROLLMENT THIS YEAR!!!! After the contracts with insurers expire next year, the gov't plan is what we'll have.
Maloney always said he wants it.
The unions, for some reason only god knows have been fighting for it for years.(oh that's right their private healthcare nursing home bargaining units)
Wyman wrote the damned thing!

They're not telling us what the

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fulldisclosure- They're not

fulldisclosure-
They're not going to let us wait until 2014 or 2017. The Anthem and Cigna and United contracts are up next year.
They're gone- unless it's our +$100/month option.
VOTE HELL NO ANYWAY! BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S A DONE DEAL.

Who monitors the vote? An

Who monitors the vote? An independent party I hope.

Hi Sharewut! I assure you I

Hi Sharewut!
I assure you I am voting no!

Yes the insurance company contracts are up next year BUT under SEBAC 5A, (good until 2017)..." whenever health insurance is bid out it will be on the basis of a 3 tier insured,unblended rates with at least one vendor for each plan design..." Take a look https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_YgO-VApMnxMzQ1NWU3MjItNjcyMi00OTc...

The contracts are up...not the 2017 Agreement...the structure is in the agreement...and why we need to vote this hair brained concept down!
If we vote it down....Malloy may very well have to find another source ro initiate sustiNet and therefore the desperation

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Hapkido Not sure what our

Hapkido
Not sure what our rights are regarding requesting this or if it is a usual practice. If this is not the usual practice, I sure hope someone will act quickly to ensure a third party monitors the votes taking place, the boxes being moved and the votes being counted.

check this out State

check this out State Employees ...is this the $2billion we're being asked to come up with...is the budget deficit created by the implemetation of SustiNet and not a "real" shortfall???

http://www.yankeeinstitute.org/2010/03/obamacare-for-ct-to-bust-budget/

"Highlights of the report:

• Connecticut spends $4.1 billion a year on its existing taxpayer-funded state health care
programs, including Medicaid and three state health insurance programs
*******• SustiNet will cost Connecticut taxpayers at least
$2 billion more in new, annual government
spending
• 90 percent of Connecticut residents have insurance coverage.
• Of the 343,000 people who do not have health insurance, most are either eligible for

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The above link should

The above link should be:

Also...apparently SustiNet was not originally part of Gov. Malloy's budget

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/ctnj.php/archives/entry/malloy_administratio...

from the above linked article "Democratic Gov. Dannel P. Malloy said that he considers SustiNet, the state’s best shot at a public health insurance option, a legislative initiative. Because he views it as such he didn’t include it in his budget, which has some health care advocates wondering exactly where his administration will come down on that proposal and possibly federal health care reform."

I urge fellow state workers

I urge fellow state workers to VOTE NO to any concessions package that includes this health care change. I can deal with wage freezes , even furlough days and additional $$ collected for pensions but I absolutely do not want this Obamacare health plan forced on me. This has already happened in several other states and guess what?? There are deductibles for everything. You would think with a workforce of 45,000 + the state could get affordable rates negotiated for our healthcare but what do they do, entertain this socialist health care programs which will probably

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I am amazed Bob Krysz went

I am amazed Bob Krysz went for this deal. The cadillac plans are being eliminated to go to this managed care plan which is the federal plan. I can only imagine the uproar if this was a GOP initiative. These are dark days for state employees....

fulldisclosure- Scary part of

fulldisclosure-

Scary part of the agreement there is in Section F- the State has indisputable right to choose who it deems can best provide plan. And only needs (at least)one vendor.
The TA pretty much sets up two tiers at the start. I'm sure they've got people working feverishly on tweaks on design wording. By next year, I'm sure they'll have it set so SUSPECTNET is one they can say is best.

VOTING HECK NO!!! Maybe we can delay it for 6 months or so. Just brace for the Wrath of Danni!!!! Before we were an inconvenient bump, politically, to

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Is there someone in this

Is there someone in this discussion group savy enough to create a facebook page to expose this outragous goverment controlled healthcare plan? You know like the "Save the Tate" page. I'm sure if more people are imformed about this, the more people will be outraged. This not only affects stateworkers but will soon affect towns and small business employees and more. I'm not facebook savy, but I'm sure somone out there must be. We need to be aggressive about getting this out there. I'm sure other state employee would like to see their future as well. Hey maybe it will

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Opticat Problem with this and

Opticat
Problem with this and Facebook is that employees/"cause" supporters can readily be identified. I think many would be afraid to post, or even join due to possible reprecussions... particuarly when this "dirty deal" gets rejected. Facebook group pages are easy to create by selecting "create group" on your profile page, and following the instructions
If you create one let me know...it is always possible to create a page and join using a "handle".

I'm curious, has anyone meet

I'm curious, has anyone meet with their union reps where they explained the new agreement? Our meeting is to take place the 1st week in Jume. I'm wondering why the delay. Is this strategic so there will be little time to think about what we're actually getting and give little rime for employees to banned together and vote No. If it wasn't for this forum I would have no knowledge of Sestinet and it's ramifications, this hold true for many of my coworkers and I'm sure thousands. of others. This really needs to get put there to the masses.

Fulldisclosure, do I need to

Fulldisclosure, do I need to create a new profile or from my own fb page? Can I create a new profile and proceed frpm there?

Opticat You could use your

Opticat
You could use your own page, and then create a profile for the group
I would create a new page using a "handle", then create a profile for that "handle", then create a group.
Let us know here when it is up!

as for your other comment....these "delays" are game playing at best....and could be considered "psychological operations"

Opticat- The intent of the

Opticat-

The intent of the whole process is to conceal the agenda. The union bigs are holding back from the local leaders. They deflect any questions about 'Value added plan' to the value based concept. Like Malloy did with his town halls, they're going to spread out meetings so they can prepare answers/diversions for the next one. They won't 'fess up to the entire ramifications until night before vote. They want a fast vote to avoid discussion of what is an indefensible position.
READ YOUR BALLOT CAREFULLY!
TRY TO HAVE A SAMPLE PASSED AROUND BEFORE HAND SO IT CAN BE

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Sharewut Would exit polling

Sharewut

Would exit polling be a possibility?

Swamp Yankee Krysz sits on

Swamp Yankee Krysz sits on the Board of the Ct Health Foundation. This organization gave $300,000 for the formation of the SustiNet Board
http://health.myrecordjournal.com/healthnews/donations-cover-start-costs...

Board of Directors at the Ct. Health Foundation

http://www.cthealth.org/matriarch/MultiPiecePage.asp_Q_PageID_E_85_A_Pag...

Vote NO, because of the

Vote NO, because of the health care section.

Opticat...InThisTogetherCT

Opticat...InThisTogetherCT has a FB page

http://www.facebook.com/pages/InThisTogetherCT/101715453226449

Thanks Fulldisclosure, I saw

Thanks Fulldisclosure, I saw that. Seems a bit slanted toward those in favor. My comment as deleted in response to someone. I think you maybe right about people not wanting their names out there. There is a poll there that shows some promise though, the NO vote is in the lead. I'll try to work a fb page. Hard to do on a mobile.

Hi Opticat Seems there's a

Hi Opticat
Seems there's a bit of censorship going on ... two of my comments on InThisTogether website dissappeared and two are in moderation, one of those for 4 days now. My posts were clean, rescpectful, and cited sources...think they didn't want the info known?

Fulldisclosure I truly

Fulldisclosure I truly believe that "they" don't want the true information out there. Let's see, socialized healthcare, unequal taxation, controlled media coverage and censorship. Sounds like this state has forgotten the fundimental principles that which this great country was founded on. Such a shame.

I'll second that motion

I'll second that motion Opticat!

Exit Polling.... would give a

Exit Polling....

would give a cause for alarm should this obamination pass, but they can say that the polls are not reliable, people lied to cover up or decieve etc.
Only real way to get an honest, unquestionable vote is to have an open 'roll-call' style vote. But that's a logistical impossibility. For that you'd need to be able to do it when people could attend.
Break out some of the old mechanical election machines and monitor them! They're accurate and fairly fraud proof, as long as the counters are being read honestly.

@fulldisclosure re:

@fulldisclosure re: Krysz....

So that makes four, and I'm sure there's more. I don't have the time or patience right now to 'Google' all the SUSPECTNET board and 'advisors', but we've got at least Luciano, Krysz, Lembo, and Wyman with serious conflicts of interest in this deal!

Gotta keep my BP down so they

Gotta keep my BP down so they can't fine me when I blow a gasket!
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When your BP goes down a bit

When your BP goes down a bit look at these

http://wisdomovertime.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/sebac-2011-and-possible-c...

http://wisdomovertime.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/2011-sebac-agreement-bypa...

my oh my, the plot

my oh my, the plot thickens.....

You can't make this sh*t up!

You can't make this sh*t up! I'm sure they all have family in the mix, somewhere also. they're all on all the boards. Think they'll be using their own 'product'? Yeah right!