LeBeau hopes to renew debate on smaller legislature

December 22, 2011

By Keith M. Phaneuf

While a new report shows Connecticut outspends most other states in terms of legislative costs, an East Hartford lawmaker hopes it will breathe a second life into his Quixotic bid to eliminate jobs by shrinking the General Assembly.

Sen. Gary LeBeau said that when the next regular session convenes in February he either will re-introduce his plan to eliminate one of the two legislative chambers, or offer a new proposal to reduce membership in both.

"People hate waste," said LeBeau, a Democrat entering his 16th year in the Senate. "Everybody campaigns against it, but nobody does anything about it."

LeBeau

Sen. Gary LeBeau

The "waste" LeBeau is referring to lies within the $65.3 million Connecticut is budgeted to spend this year on its House, Senate, and both partisan and nonpartisan support services.

The nonpartisan Office of Legislative Research issued a report earlier this month comparing legislative spending across all states in 2009, when Connecticut's legislative costs were slightly less at $60.5 million.

OLR analysts found Connecticut ranked ninth-highest in spending on a per capita basis. The $17.19 per person it spent on legislative functions was nearly double the national average of $9.54 per person. In terms of spending per legislator, Connecticut ranked 20th at $324,305.

It is difficult to rank legislative pay nationally, since some states award an annual salary, others pay based on time spent in session, and still others use a combination. But in terms of annual base salary, the $28,000 Connecticut legislators earned ranks 20th-highest according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Connecticut legislators also receive an annual stipend to cover unitemized expenses. Each of its 151 representatives receives $4,500 and each of 36 senators gets $5,500. Additional stipends are awarded to committee chairmen and other leaders to reflect additional responsibilities.

LeBeau first made the argument four years ago that Connecticut needed only one chamber with about 60 members.

"If you cut the number of legislators by two-thirds, it would be really hard to justify the current level of support staff," LeBeau said. He quickly added that the current support network isn't inefficient; the entire branch of government simply is too large.

Though only one state, Nebraska, currently features a unicameral legislature, LeBeau said he believes the otherwise national adherence to the two-chamber model stems from two factors: public misconceptions and political self-interest.

The latter, LeBeau said, is easy to understand. "It would mean there are fewer jobs for the politicians," he said. "They don't want that."

And though he couldn't cite any poll results on the subject here, he is confident Connecticut voters would endorse it. ""I think it would poll at 65, 70 percent or better," LeBeau said. "People hear about it and they say 'what a great idea.'"

The problem, he added, is that many voters are unaware of a crucial difference between state legislatures and the U.S. Congress.

Children learn early in elementary school of the "Connecticut Compromise," a proposal offered by Nutmeg State delegates to the Constitutional Convention of 1787 that solved a crisis over the nature of Congress: seats in the national House of Representatives would be assigned to each state based on population, while every state would have two senators.

But not as many learn that since the landmark 1964 U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Reynolds v. Sims, all state legislative chamber seats -- both House and Senate -- must be apportioned based on population.

"The Connecticut Compromise really isn't needed in Connecticut," LeBeau said.

Shifting to a unicameral legislature would mean re-writing the state Constitution, a process that would require approval both from the General Assembly and from the public at a future statewide election.

Legislative leaders recently re-wrote state legislative district maps to reflect population changes from the 2010 U.S. Census, and those will remain in effect for the next 10 years.  LeBeau said any plan for a scaled-back legislature wouldn't apply those changes for another decade.

So why raise the issue now?

"It's the perfect time," he said, noting that many of the legislators serving now will have ended their legislative careers by 2021. "It really takes the issue of self-interest out of the debate. It gives people time to adjust and time to plan."

LeBeau received a public hearing on his proposal four years ago, and said he hopes that if there's a second public airing next spring, it could develop into an issue in the 2012 statewide election.

Sen. Gayle Slossberg, D-Milford, co-chairwoman of the Government Administration and Elections Committee, didn't rule out any possibilities Wednesday.

"The idea didn't get a lot of traction the first time," she said. "It would depend on what the committee thinks, but we tend to be pretty open."

Slossberg added that despite LeBeau's optimism about public support, her panel heard complaints four years ago from constituents worried that a unicameral system would leave them fewer legislators to bring their concerns to. "You do take representation further away from the people when they have less access to legislators," she said.

LeBeau does have an ally in one former legislative leader who now chairs a state advisory panel that recommends compensation levels for elected officials and judges.

"I'd love to hear the debate on it," said Bloomfield attorney Lewis Rome, who served as both majority and minority leader in the state Senate during the 1970s.

Rome said the current system sometimes allows lawmakers to avoid taking stands on key issues. For example, if a senator from one town kills a popular bill, a representative from the same community who privately hoped for that result, might not take a public position.

"I think you would get greater responsibility," Rome said. "I'd favor it."

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I strongly support Sen.LeBeau

I strongly support Sen.LeBeau proposal: the benefits would be significant not only in financial terms but also in forcing a more prioritized approach to legislative efforts.

Unicameral Legislature would

Unicameral Legislature would be worth considering. But we should be cautious about shrinking the number of legislators. The fewer legislators, the more citizens each has to represent, the less time each has for each citizen, the more committee work each would have to do, and the more citizens likely to have legislators with views inconsistent with theirs.

We expect our legislators to be familiar with more and more issues, often issues with much technical detail. We should consider a full time legislature, without the annual deadline and game of killing bills by running out the clock etc.

I am sure

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THe CT Mirror could do the

THe CT Mirror could do the taxpayers a huge favor by publishing the total compensation for each person in the legislature. I have never heard or seen so many people with extra titles which means more money. They mention $28,000 per year however most make more than that due to extra worthless titles.
I would like to see the total broken out in detail such as base pay,extra because of special title,milleage,special allowance.
Also the CT Mirror could do the public again a huge favor by explaining to the taxpayers how teachers get paid when they serve in the legislature.I

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Under the current

Under the current constitutional provisions, the state Senate may consist of as few as 30 members and the House as few as 125. So the recent Reapportionment Commission -- or any of the previous cycles' Commissions -- once reconstituted as the Commission after blowing the Committee deadlines for reporting to the full legislature, COULD have simply Decreed 30-&-125-district maps without so much as a By-your-leave from anybody. Thus even with Bicameralism & without constitutional amendment, AND without approval by the full legislature, the number of Senators COULD be cut by 6, and of Reps by 26.

Of course

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Human beings are often ruled

Human beings are often ruled by their passions and emotions, which of course, are temporary in nature, since the conditions for such passions and emotions (like fads) can be artificially and craftily aroused by wily, activist and Machiavellian politicians, social and religious figures, who are, often, guided by their (hidden) own self interest.

An unicameral legislature is often the worst kind of solution to save a fistful of dollars, because the other needless ultimate costs can be overwhelming. Like the tri-modal system of checks and balances, a bicameral legislature, with the upper house acting with due deliberation, can be

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The constitutional rules for

The constitutional rules for the legislature apportionment should be changed to make more sense and do a better job of creating a legislature that is an appropriate size and shape. We also should look at our process for reapportionment since we are again seeing how ugly politics can really mess it up. A commission and redistricting process with less interest in incumbency protection and gaining party advantage by redrawing lines than serving the citizens and their constitutional and voting rights is a must. We have had 2 big rounds of political fights in our redistricting process and the

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Gary is spot on! We do work

Gary is spot on! We do work with Government at the Local, State and Federal levels. When you consider that California (11X+ the population of CT) has less total State reps and senators than CT, you realize what a costly situation we have. It doesn't make any sense at all!

>>Who else can affors to do

>>Who else can affors to do this? Why don't we discuss this situation. Sen LeBeau is an excellent example of this sitution and he talks about saving money.>>

He who speaks out of both sides of his mouth.............

Not only do people like LeBeau make money on the backs of taxpayers, they do it in a 'double dip' manner.

Also, let's not forget the taxpayers in E. Hartford who are having their children taught by a series of substitute teachers. I don't know about most parents, but I don't want my kids taught is such an erratic fashion, knowing

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Let me know how I can help!

Let me know how I can help!